RESP Demos: Four cases are provided which covers the range of posiblities. water One molecule with a single stage fitting ethylene One molecule with a two stage fit on a single conformation bis-napthyl One molecule with a two stage fit on two conformations adenine Two molecules fitted together to get charges for a "super molecule". peptoid Two stage fit of a peptide-type residue to be consistent with Cornell et al. '95 peptides Some remarks on these demos by Wendy Cornell: 1) ethylene -- This only requires a one-stage fit since there are no methyl or methylene groups. Both the carbons and the hydrogens should be constrained to be equivalent in stage 1. 2) adenine -- This is a 2-conformation fit. In stage 1, I would not make methylene H21 equiv between the 2 confs and methylene H22 equiv between the 2 confs. They get refit in stage 2 and are made to be equiv within each conformation at that time. When 2 different conformations are used in the fit (I don't think that's the case here) then H21(mol 1) may not correspond rigorously to H21(mol 2) anyway. My general philosophy was the fewer constraints in stage 1, the better. Although I usually made the C's in methyl and methylene groups be equiv in stage 1 just to "nail down" part of the charge distribution. In stage 2, H22 was constrained to be equal to H22 instead of H21. I would really like to see the atomic numbering appear in the input files. I always end up writing it in anyway by hand, otherwise I make mistakes like the above. 3) bis-napthyl -- What is that extra lagrange constraint doing at the end of the first input file? Again, I wouldn't make each H within the methyl and methylene groups be equiv to its coresponding atom in the other conformation in the first stage. 4) The input files don't always have the proper title (i.e. "water," "adenine", etc) The weakest aspect of the RESP model, in my opinion, is that the second stage fit was initially employed to refit inequivalent atoms (methyl H's), but then was also used to pull down the charges on the nonpolar atoms even further through use of the stronger restraint. The obvious problem is how to handle polar atoms which are not equivalent but need to be. This turned out not be a problem with amino H's, for example, but there may be other systems where it is a problem. At the very least, it means the philosophy and purpose of the second stage is not well defined. Chris wanted to include methine groups in the second stage refit, but it was found that the stronger restraint reduced the charges too much and adversely affected the fit. If we had it to do over again, I'd say just use the same restraint in both stages (and I think Chris came to the same conclusion.) --